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'''Gabriele Müller''',<br/>
a Swiss computer scientist and programmer, known in the computer chess scene for her three [[:Category:Clone|Clones]] of [[Crafty]] in 1998/99,
[[Voyager]] <ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.computer/browse_frm/thread/cc8520f40dc69198 crafty copyright problem] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[Computer Chess Forums|rgcc]], February 17, 1999</ref>,
[[LaGrande]] and [[LaPetite]]
<ref>[https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=74534 La Petite 1.0 (download)] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[CCC]], October 22, 1999</ref>
<ref>[http://www.playwitharena.com/?Engine_Links_Collection Arena Chess GUI 3.0 - Engine Links Collection]</ref>.
=Copyright=
Müller did not grasp Crafty's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright Copyright] statement, but apparently took remarks by [[Robert Hyatt]] like in his reply to [[Ren Wu]], January 26, 1999, concerning [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_reuse code reuse] and not [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinventing_the_wheel reinventing the wheel] as alibi for her chess programming <ref>[https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=40922 Re: Bionic v Crafty - a possible solution] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[CCC]], January 26, 1999</ref>:
This is a basic tenet of software engineering called 'code reuse'. Why should I pay you to write something from scratch and take a year, if you can take something that exists and modify it to do the same thing in a month? And then I don't have as much trouble debugging and testing, since it is mostly already done...
that's not a bad side to this... Of course occasionally starting over is a good thing. But not starting from 'scratch'. IE if you don't know what has already been tried, you will re-invent the same bad wheels over and over and probably follow the same footsteps many before you did... software engineering wants to avoid that 'reinvention' problem...
[[Robert Hyatt]] further on the copyright problem <ref>[https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.chess.computer/c/zIUg9A3GkZg/m/tmSElNxbgtsJ Re: crafty copyright problem] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[Computer Chess Forums|rgcc]], February 17, 1999</ref>:
My primary requirement is that if something is done to crafty to make it 'better', then that 'something' must be as public as the original code was. Because many have contributed bits and pieces... Eugene, George, Steffen, Mark, SJE, and many others that are to numerous to mention. Seems unfair that they modify what I did, then they make their stuff public, and then someone else takes _all_ of this and purports it to be 'original'.
I suppose it has to do with 'national morals' or whatever, ie the software piracy problem in China, to name but one.
=Forum Posts=
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=37927 Voyager on ICC] by [[Đorđe Vidanović]], [[CCC]], December 30, 1998
* [https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.chess.computer/c/zIUg9A3GkZg/m/D7OvJBESxiMJ crafty copyright problem] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[Computer Chess Forums|rgcc]], February 17, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=43466 On the Voyager Issue, briefly - to Bob Hyatt] by [[Đorđe Vidanović]], [[CCC]], February 17, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=43533 Crafty Modifications MUST be made available to Robert Hyatt] by [[KarinsDad]], [[CCC]], February 17, 1999
* [http://www.open-aurec.com/wbforum/viewtopic.php?t=30370 Many News, see the WinBoard News Ticker !] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[Computer Chess Forums|WinBoard Forum]], September 27, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=74534 La Petite 1.0 (download)] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[CCC]], October 22, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=253595 Re: Ruffian is here - Make your move Bob Hyatt!] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[CCC]], September 23, 2002
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=327820 "VOYAGER" engine] by [[Swaminathan Natarajan]], [[CCC]], November 16, 2003
=External Links=
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180713102955/http://chess.fsv.de/Summer98/descript.htm#Dr.%20Gabriele%20M%C3%BCller Dr. Gabriele Müller] from [https://web.archive.org/web/20180713102955/http://chess.fsv.de/Summer98/descript.htm Summer98-Tournament] by [[Torsten Schoop]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine Wayback Machine])
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20120204002213/http://www.playwitharena.com/?Engine_Links_Collection Arena Chess GUI 3.0 - Engine Links Collection] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine Wayback Machine])
* [http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=computer_chess:wiki:lists:clone_engine_list Clone Engine List] from [[Ron Murawski|Ron Murawski's]] [http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=home Computer-Chess Wiki]
=References=
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[[Category:Chess Programmer|Müller]]
[[Category:Hyatt Quotes|Müller]]
'''Gabriele Müller''',<br/>
a Swiss computer scientist and programmer, known in the computer chess scene for her three [[:Category:Clone|Clones]] of [[Crafty]] in 1998/99,
[[Voyager]] <ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.computer/browse_frm/thread/cc8520f40dc69198 crafty copyright problem] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[Computer Chess Forums|rgcc]], February 17, 1999</ref>,
[[LaGrande]] and [[LaPetite]]
<ref>[https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=74534 La Petite 1.0 (download)] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[CCC]], October 22, 1999</ref>
<ref>[http://www.playwitharena.com/?Engine_Links_Collection Arena Chess GUI 3.0 - Engine Links Collection]</ref>.
=Copyright=
Müller did not grasp Crafty's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright Copyright] statement, but apparently took remarks by [[Robert Hyatt]] like in his reply to [[Ren Wu]], January 26, 1999, concerning [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_reuse code reuse] and not [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinventing_the_wheel reinventing the wheel] as alibi for her chess programming <ref>[https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=40922 Re: Bionic v Crafty - a possible solution] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[CCC]], January 26, 1999</ref>:
This is a basic tenet of software engineering called 'code reuse'. Why should I pay you to write something from scratch and take a year, if you can take something that exists and modify it to do the same thing in a month? And then I don't have as much trouble debugging and testing, since it is mostly already done...
that's not a bad side to this... Of course occasionally starting over is a good thing. But not starting from 'scratch'. IE if you don't know what has already been tried, you will re-invent the same bad wheels over and over and probably follow the same footsteps many before you did... software engineering wants to avoid that 'reinvention' problem...
[[Robert Hyatt]] further on the copyright problem <ref>[https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.chess.computer/c/zIUg9A3GkZg/m/tmSElNxbgtsJ Re: crafty copyright problem] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[Computer Chess Forums|rgcc]], February 17, 1999</ref>:
My primary requirement is that if something is done to crafty to make it 'better', then that 'something' must be as public as the original code was. Because many have contributed bits and pieces... Eugene, George, Steffen, Mark, SJE, and many others that are to numerous to mention. Seems unfair that they modify what I did, then they make their stuff public, and then someone else takes _all_ of this and purports it to be 'original'.
I suppose it has to do with 'national morals' or whatever, ie the software piracy problem in China, to name but one.
=Forum Posts=
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=37927 Voyager on ICC] by [[Đorđe Vidanović]], [[CCC]], December 30, 1998
* [https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.chess.computer/c/zIUg9A3GkZg/m/D7OvJBESxiMJ crafty copyright problem] by [[Robert Hyatt]], [[Computer Chess Forums|rgcc]], February 17, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=43466 On the Voyager Issue, briefly - to Bob Hyatt] by [[Đorđe Vidanović]], [[CCC]], February 17, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=43533 Crafty Modifications MUST be made available to Robert Hyatt] by [[KarinsDad]], [[CCC]], February 17, 1999
* [http://www.open-aurec.com/wbforum/viewtopic.php?t=30370 Many News, see the WinBoard News Ticker !] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[Computer Chess Forums|WinBoard Forum]], September 27, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=74534 La Petite 1.0 (download)] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[CCC]], October 22, 1999
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=253595 Re: Ruffian is here - Make your move Bob Hyatt!] by [[Frank Quisinsky]], [[CCC]], September 23, 2002
* [https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?id=327820 "VOYAGER" engine] by [[Swaminathan Natarajan]], [[CCC]], November 16, 2003
=External Links=
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20180713102955/http://chess.fsv.de/Summer98/descript.htm#Dr.%20Gabriele%20M%C3%BCller Dr. Gabriele Müller] from [https://web.archive.org/web/20180713102955/http://chess.fsv.de/Summer98/descript.htm Summer98-Tournament] by [[Torsten Schoop]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine Wayback Machine])
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20120204002213/http://www.playwitharena.com/?Engine_Links_Collection Arena Chess GUI 3.0 - Engine Links Collection] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine Wayback Machine])
* [http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=computer_chess:wiki:lists:clone_engine_list Clone Engine List] from [[Ron Murawski|Ron Murawski's]] [http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=home Computer-Chess Wiki]
=References=
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